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Topic: 1972 SMiLE



Date: 09/3/01 09:15:55 PM

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So, to wrap it all up in a nice little package, the claims of ChrisGreyEyes were, as most of us already knew, nothing more than an audations display of oral crepitation.

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Yeah, Des and I are in agreement. I've seen no evidence that much was done on SMILE in 1971-72, other than getting "Surf's Up" ready for release.

A little bit about the Warner-Reprise contract that included SMILE...

When the BBs settled their suit with Capitol in late 1971, they arranged to license their five late 1960s albums from Capitol for a 10-year period. They then turned around and licensed them to Warner for that duration. Additionally, the BBs included SMILE in both contracts. In their license deal with Capitol, they received permission to release SMILE, with, I think, the proviso that if they put it out, it would come back to Capitol at the end of the 10-year period, along with the late 1960s albums.

When the late 1960s albums were licensed to Warner, the BBs were given an advance for each of the late 1960s albums; the advances was to be recouped from each album's sales. Delivering the master tapes for the albums to Warner satisfied the conditions placed on the advances.

In that deal, the BBs specifically were given an advance of $50,000 to prepare SMILE for release. The condition placed on the advance was that the master tape for the album was to be delivered no later than May 1, 1973. If the tape wasn't delivered as promised, then Warner could recoup that $50,000 by deducting it from any advance paid to the group after that; it wasn't a fine or a penalty, simply a recouping of moneys already paid for the album.

Of course, the master tape wasn't delivered, so I assume that Warner knocked $50,000 off the group's next advance (probably for THE BBs IN CONCERT or maybe for the GOOD VIBRATIONS-BEST OF THE BEACH BOYS album released in 1975).

Surf's up!
Brad

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Wasn't SMILE part of the Reprise Contract ?? Yes they made the album orgianlly for Capitol but when they signed with Reprise they had to release Smile in the contract and they did not. With all the versions out there , why did they not release it in some form??? Am I correct that they were fine for not releasing the cd????? Tom

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I remember that Carl did work on "Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine" during the 1972 period. He mentioned that the tape got thrown out by mistake and he had to chase it down and splice it all back together again.

I think that Brad and I once came to the conclusion that very little work was actually done to SMiLE in 1972.

D.F.J.

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Not only that, but I feel that if they HAD really "finished" it in a coherent sense, they would have released it. They were more or less contractually obliged to.

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According to Stephen Desper, though, he and Carl DID tackle a song or two -- how much is unclear. There were strides.

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No he didn't. He found that it was too much work and lot of the songs were not finished.

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What is the true story of the 1972 smile album??? Did Carl actually finish the album??



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